Posted by: HSP Woman on: September 13, 2007
Being agoraphobic makes going to the dentist very difficult.
Unfortunately, I’ve had this sensitivity in my teeth for about three months now. I just dread going to the dentist and hearing terrible news like my roots are rotting and major dental surgery is the only option.
This morning, however, I gathered the courage to call and make a same-day appointment. But, first, let me give you a little history.
I have a dental phobia based on a couple of things: the primary problem being that I prefer to avoid places where escape might be difficult or embarrassing in the event of a panic attack.
Second, there is the side of me that has suffered from some traumatic events related to dentistry. Here, I will recall just one of them to make a point.
It was Halloween, 1998. I was in the hospital, in the O.R. specifically, minutes away from a major jaw surgery to correct a malocclusion. Since it was Halloween, there must have been some vampire teeth hanging around.
So there I am, lying unconscious on the operating table, my face painted with that yellowish antiseptic. On both sides of my exposed neck, hunching over me, were two nurses wearing fake vampire teeth. They were pretending to suck my blood.
How do I know this happened?
Two months later, I was at the surgeon’s office for a follow up. My three-inch thick file lay on the counter, bursting at the seams. Then, suddenly, a Polaroid falls to the floor.
I pick it up and nearly faint. It’s a photo of me — unconscious and exposed — with two vampire nurses, mouths open, just inches from biting my vulnerable neck.
All I could do was write a letter to the head nurse. She, in turn, apologized and said she’d offer her staff “sensitivity training.” Big deal, right?
I am still sick over what happened in that operating room.
Needless to say, I have good reason to be phobic of dentists. I read, too, that the mouth is a very sensitive, private area. It does feel violating to have someone forcing his/her way into the private space of one’s mouth.
Yesterday, I searched and searched the Internet for support.
I finally came across this wonderful, compassion, intelligent site called Dental Fear Central.
Wow! Are there some great ideas there!
For example, here are two ideas that halt gagging in its tracks:
Breathe Right snore relief spray. Here’s a quote about this product from the web site:
I had a patient a few months ago who came in with a broken tooth which needed crowning, I cringed at the thought of doing this crown because of his severe gag reflex. He told me not to worry because he had a cure for his gagging problem. Astonished as to the cure, I inquired. He told me he had been using the snore relief spray from Breathe Right. We did the crown prep with no gag problems at all. I was amazed, so we have been using this on all patients with a gag reflex and I would say it works nearly 100% of the time. The worst patient I knew of was this beautiful 11 year old girl who would throw up almost every time she had her teeth cleaned. She is now able to have x-rays, cleanings and such done without incidence.
And, how about regular table salt to stop the gag reflex?
One pretty bomb proof tip for handling gaggers is the use of table salt on the tip of the tongue… Get the patient to dip his/her moist finger into a dampen dish of salt and get them to dab it onto the tip of the tongue. Works 95% of the time.
I’ve had the fear of vomiting in public for years. Sometimes when I am really nervous I start to dry heave and gag. Carrying a bit of salt around could be a useful trick in more places than the dentist’s office!
This web site also expands upon a number of the specific fears people have when visiting the dentist, including:
The site also suggests writing a letter to the dentist about one’s needs and concerns. This is exactly what I did:
Dear Dr. Myers,
I have extreme anxiety when in the dentist’s office. This is probably a result of the hundreds of hours I have spent in dentists’ chairs. I have had two orthognathic surgeries and full sets of braces twice.
Also, I have Panic Disorder and Agoraphobia. I was diagnosed with this in 1989. I was taking medication for this, but I have recently stopped. I didn’t feel the benefits of the medication outweighed the number of side effects I was experiencing.
Concerns of Mine:
Thank you so much for your consideration.
I handed it to the receptionist as soon as I arrived this afternoon.
As soon as I was seated in the dentist chair, I added yet another need: No chain and bib around my neck! The assistant immediately obliged and unchained me. I just feel claustrophobic when there’s something around my neck. I had forgotten about this one!
Within minutes the dentist entered the room…
Dr. Myers sat down next to me and thanked me for the “Concerns and Needs” letter. I felt like he really had some compassion in him at this point.
He asks me if he can take a look inside my mouth.
He looks.
“No cavities!” he declares.
Don’t get me wrong. Part of me is ecstatic that I have no glaring problems. My confidence is mounting. Full-blown panic is nowhere to be seen…
“But, it really hurts while and after I eat cold things,” I said.
He tells me it’s probably my sinuses (for three months??). Uh, okay…
Then, Dr, Myers starts to say goodbye.
Wait! What about the x-rays? I wasn’t going home only to obsess about the x-rays I need anyway on my previously scheduled September 20th appointment.
The dentist is reluctant to do x-rays, saying he wants this visit to be a “positive visit.”
Okay, I have panic disorder, I am not 5 years old!
Now I am starting to get insistent.
“How do you know I don’t have any cavities if you don’t take x-rays?” I say, feeling like he must be joking with me.
Well, I got him there. He admitted I may have a cavity in between my teeth (duh!).
So, the next 20 minutes are taken up with a very, how do I say, a very “challenged” x-ray technician. She is rough and seems really inexperienced. She also insists that I must “relax my tongue.” My tongue is apparently too wide or something. What a strange thing to tell a patient.
After all the fussing about, the technician can’t find my x-rays on the computer. The dentist comes in and, together, they continue fussing about.
Meanwhile, I am just grateful it’s almost over!
Something interesting happens next. Dr. Myers sits down next to me and tells me my teeth will probably never decay. Great! I’m ready to go, and he keeps chatting about why I am phobic of the dentist.
Then I suddenly remember to ask him if he wants his name on the Dental Fear Central web site. Hey, it’s free advertising.
He says “No.” That’s it. No.
I’m taken back for a moment.
No?
“Why not?” I ask.
He then says, and I quote, “…because people like you are too much work.”
Now, I am speechless. As I recall this moment, I can still feel the effects of shock.
PEOPLE LIKE ME?
He continues, “People like you take too much time. Look how much I did with you today.”
HOW MUCH YOU DID WITH ME TODAY?
I quickly responded with “You looked into my mouth. That’s all you did. Literally.”
He replies, “Well, look how much TIME I spent on you.”
My jaw was on the floor. I was angry, shocked. He must have seen my rage.
“Don’t be offended. It’s just that I can’t charge for TIME, I only charge for fillings, root canal, procedures… Not for time. People like you take too much time.”
I insisted he charge me then. He refused.
I told him I was indeed very, very offended. I hadn’t asked for a minute of his time more than reading the letter I brought into his office.
PEOPLE LIKE ME…
I got up, gathered my purse, and left. Left for good.
Yeah, like now I would feel really comfortable actually requesting a break if I were panicking! Talk about added pressure!
I was proud of myself for vocalizing my disgust with him, but at the same time, I should have really given it to him.
Six hours later, it’d be really easy for me to keep crying the way I did as soon as I left the building. But, no way! Dr. Myers, DDS made a fatal mistake — trying to fake compassion.
Not only has he lost my regular, every 6 months’ appointments, but he also lost my husband’s business.
Shame on you, Dr. Myers.
He was a jerk for saying it, but I’ll bet 95% of them think that way. It seems as though medicine is all about the profit potential.
Your experiences have been awful. So have mine, actually. Here’s something I learned that has almost done away with my dental phobia, besides the “trapped” feeling part. (I like your idea of letting the dentist know you might need to walk around.)
I learned that the numbing anesthetic has epinephrine in it. Apparently, it constricts the blood vessels, inhibiting bleeding. I found this out purely by accident, and the next time I went to the dentist, I asked for an alternative, as I do not tolerate speedy stuff at all. Now they give me the epi-free shot, and no more panic setting in immediately after the shot! I’m not afraid of needles, so I never could figure that one out…
Kudos to you for staying off those meds. I’m down to one dose of Xanax XR, but I’m having a heck of a time…
Congratulations!! Congratulations!!
1st – for staying off benzos for a month
2nd – for being a so much nicer person than your (former) dentist
I was appalled (but unfortunately, not very surprised) by the behaviour of your dentist.
A dentist I once went to was jailed for doing more work than required on his patients (and thereby gaining extra income) and for fraudulent billing.
Our current family dentist is superb. This is how we chose him…
I went to 8 dentists in this area and told them all about the special needs of my autistic son, and asked them how they would deal with them. 4 dentists told me that they didn’t feel that they were able to accommodate his needs, 2 were too busy to help, one recommended that I sedate him before visits (!!!), and the last suggested that I bring him along at the end of his day to “get used to him and the environment” and told me that he might need several such visits before he (the dentist) would carry out any treatment. There was no charge for this extra attention.
Now all my family go to this dentist.
There are good dentists out there, but you have to look for them!
Personally, I wouldn’t waste my time writing to the despicable low-life Myers. My wife once used the following phrase when I got upset every time I recalled how I had been unjustly treated…
“Don’t let him live in your head rent-free”
…so now when I get mistreated I try to get that person right out of there as quickly as possible.
Hi..
I had an experience very similar to this.
July 2005 i had cracked a tooth in half and was refered to have it taken out under IV Sedation at a clinic who specialised in dental phobics.
As you can understand, as an (at the time) recovering agoraphobic/panic sufferer, the thought of having something injected into my hand that would make me feel drunk/drowsy was scary. I got in the chair and basically wept for 3 minutes (4 minutes at a push), then i let them just drug me! I was terrified.
After it was done, they sat me in recovery and *apparently* i was very noisey. I have NO recolection of this, i was still sedated.
When i left the clinic the told my mother that i would never be able to have any more treatment there again due to my irrational behaviour. They could not have me there as i was high risk(!?????) Whatever that meant!
Fast forward 8 months. I was in AGONY with 2 rotten wisdom teeth. I was once again refered to the clinic who i was banned from. I got there and i was seen. The dentist said “Sorry Sarah, we cannot treat you here.” “Okay” i said, “Tell me of a private clinic that’ll do it because i will pay to have it taken out”. ….. THEN…..(and this is the worst bit)….”Oh” The dentist said. “I CAN do that for you here!!!” What a flipping cheek! I ended up paying HIM £450 to have my wissies extracted.
I’ve been back since to the same clinic and not had to pay because i *behaved* myself on the 2 seperate occassions where i DID have to pay!
I was going to put in a complaint…but couldn’t be bothered!
Sarah.
What a jerk! I totally agree with you about “faking” compassion. If that was his attitude he should have been straight up with you at the beginning just like you were with him. I am so glad you left and don’t plan on returning. Having phobias of dentistry are SO common! How can you say “people like you” and not think that would offend someone. You should start a blog entitled dr.meyers.dds.sucks where you can promote his insensitivity and greediness!
P.S. I found your blog on Debaser’s its very cool. I will definitely be back, and I am adding you to my blogroll
Kudos on your courage to speak up to this rude, highly insensitive dentist!! Sheer lack of thought, consideration, and appropriateness never ceases to boggle the mind.
I think every woman, everywhere has experienced trivialization in the medical community and negation of our thoughts, feelings, concerns, and fears. It’s an attitude towards women in general, not just those with agoraphobia or panic disorder.
I experienced it repeatedly from MD’s when undergoing treatment for cancer, which greatly exacerbated the trauma of the cancer ordeal. As a woman who has had many physical health problems, I can avow that bedside manner, for the most part, is atrocious. I’ve had many horrible doctor experiences. One actually rolled his eyes when I asked him questions about my cancer and cancer treatment he thought were trivial or silly!! I seriously doubt he would ever react that way with a man.
Abundant blessings to you, MW
Great post! I too have dental phobia, so much so that I nibble food with my front teeth and live on Orajel because I don’t want to go to the dentist for my teeth sensitivity, which I’m sure is really a sadistic infection that will soon infiltrate my brain. I’m on borrowed time. And it sucks because I have awesome insurance.
I’m also an agoraphobe and a hypochondriac. It’s comforting to hear from like-minded people, I’ll have to add you to my blogroll…
You handled that so well…I’m impressed!!!
I have a slight case of agoraphobia…and a GINORMOUS case of anxiety/panic attacks…and even worse, I have extreme cases of rage! It took a lot of courage for you to write that letter, and even more for you to show up and hand them the letter. HOW DARE HE!!!! Then result for me would’ve have been a huge spazz session, and possibly some of my spit in his face! LOL, but that’s just me…CONRATS TO YOU FOR BEING SUCH A COURAGEOUS PERSON!!!
Welcome, Amber
Thank you for your vote of support! I am sorry you, too, are suffering from panic attacks. I can become pretty enraged, too. It’s just so frustrating having panic attacks and agoraphobia. Lots of people just don’t understand because, for them, going to the dentist is just unpleasant; it’s not a torture! But, there are people who get us. Lots of people out here in the blogosphere have panic attacks. It’s really comforting to be able to connect. Thanks for stopping by!
This dentist was so incredibly condescending and then insulting! He’s an idiot. Dentists know that MOST patients dread seeing them and dental conferences are filled with workshops on how to calm anxious patients and even how to use hypnosis, which can be very effective. This guy just flat-out LIED to you that you have nothing wrong and you’ll never have anything wrong. He missed ALL the workshops!
Welcome, Individual Voice!
I agree. Dr. Myers is incredibly insulting. He obviously doesn’t know that many people dread the dentist. Or, rather, he doesn’t care. He seems pretty comfortable in his little set up there. I just don’t see someone like him bending over backwards to be compassionate. Nor do I see him every volunteering to attend a hypnosis workshop! Too bad; that sounds really helpful!
Thanks for your comment
As an abuse, domestic violence, health crises and cancer survivor I live with PTSD.
I never connected my dental treatment “issues” to abuse until I saw an article on the dental fear site.
http://www.dentalfearcentral.org/sexual_abuse_dental_fear.html
Bad experiences with trivializing, derisive doctors felt re-abusive, bringing up many of the same feelings of powerlessness and negation.
I have never posted about any of the above on my blog, but you have inspired me to do so. Thank U.
Kind Mother Wintermoon,
I am moved by your self-discovery.
Thank you for sharing with me.
I send you a big hug.
Did you ever read Don’t panic by Reid Wilson? Best book on panic disorder in my opinion.
You know? I have read this, but I can’t find it now! I’ve searched everywhere. I think I’ll order it again. Thanks for refreshing my memory!
I didn’t realise until I was nearly finished reading this post, but I was deep breathing (automatically) while reading about your experience!
At least you know the truth about his attitude, & knowing the truth is good.
I would much rather be told the truth than lied to. I never want someone to lie to me. If that’s the way the dentist feels, you are better off knowing it.
Regarding tooth sensitivity: I avoided drinking & eating anything cold on the right side of my mouth for years before noticing that the sensitivity had gone away. The dentist couldn’t find a reason for it. I believe it may have been caused by a partially pinched nerve in the ‘dowagers hump’ area of my spine, just below the base of my neck, just to the right of my spine. I used to get terribly painful cluster headaches, & I put that down to the stress of particular events (like public performances by my child, eg) causing me to tighten/clench my muscles, which pinched the aforementioned nerve – I had symptoms like trigeminal neuralgia from this.
Welcome Missy!
I am so glad you stopped by here. I have been having a terrible “neck” migraine for the last two weeks. I haven’t been able to figure it out! Now, I believe it might be this “dowagers hump” thing, too. I still have tooth/facial/what-seems-like-sinus pain also. Do you have TMJ pain, too? Hmm… How did you alleviate the headaches? Did you have to somehow “fix” the nerve issue?
And, I also hate to be lied to. That’s a good way to view the whole dentist encounter. Better to know how insensitive he is now, before any work is done! Imagine what he would have done had I had a full-blown panic attack!
Thanks for the insight, Missy!
I’ve just found your blog and am really looking forward to reading it through. My pulse rate quickened with fury at that story and the disgraceful attitute of the dentist. In the UK getting a dental appointment is neigh impossible unless you can have the treatment done privately. I’d left a tooth to fall to pieces after losing the courage to have it fixed five years ago, and my mother stepped forward and made me an appointment and came with me for moral support together with her credit card. I couldn’t put up with the pain if it anymore, and sure enough I needed root canal treatment. As I suffer from panic this was the last thing I needed. The dentist was extremely nice, and confessed to having panic of his own as a boy and he really seemed to understand my problem. I was so frightened that I worried myself sick in the intervening weeks but knew that I had no choice but to battle through it. Sure enough it was torture to sit in the chair for an hour and a half at a time, knowing that there was no possibility of escape once the clips had been stuck in my mouth and everything was sterile. The nurses blundered with the x-rays, they took what seemed like an age to fetch equiptment and I was counting seconds to get me through it, and it was pretty much Hell. Anything seemed achievale after coping with that, and for a while my confidence was really on a high. However it was his compassionate attitude that gave me the confidence to return. He praised me for being so calm and said he had expected some anxious outburst (little did he konw how I was really feeling!). So much for that dentist entering into a caring profession! Congratulations for standing up to him, but regarding the photo! I’m outraged! Fun is fun where it is approipriate but everyone deserves dignity and not to be confronted with such a humiliating experience. If there is a complaints proceedure then it ought to be sought out and have them exposed. It’s this kind of attitude that needs to be seriously address. We ARE the customer after all!
Nice to meet you, Coffeecup!
I am always so inspired when I get the opportunity to meet another person who has the same tendency to panic and avoid things. It’s comforting to realize I am not alone.
I am very proud of you for finally getting your tooth fixed. Our support people can really be helpful by sometimes nudging us to do what we’d normally do if we hadn’t such overwhelming panicky feelings.
I can’t imagine me making it through an hour-and-a-half dentist session. Way to go! However, like you said yourself, sometimes the anticipatory anxiety leading up to a “dreaded event” can be so much worse than the actual event!
I have to agree also about how successfully doing something that’s dreaded can really be a confidence booster. I try to remind myself of this if I get too housebound. I remind myself how much better I feel, and how much more I can do, if I just get outside and try to push myself slightly out of my comfort zone.
I really appreciate your comment!
Lovely to meet you, and I’m so pleased to have found your blog. I have a lot of catching up to do! You’re quiet right with achievement, as after those dental appointments I felt as if there was nothing that was going to stop me. Of course it doesn’t keep up like that forever unfortunately, because I’m learning that though it is highly beneficial to push on and expand that there will follow a need for rest, just like any form of excercise. It’s got to be done in moderation I find, and trips to dentists are BIG events.
The comfort I have found in others suffering the same anxieties has helped to put many things into perspective. Even today walking alone on a park with my dogs, I was struggling, and remembered that this afternoon there was a young lady sitting in a packed out school hall to see her son at a Nativity Play, and I knew that I wasn’t the only one feeling that way at that time. It gave me strength.
Thank you so much for your kind words, but really the praise here is for you, and handling such a vile situation with a philosphical and proactive attitude. I know of people who avoid dental treatment completely and have none of the problems that ‘we’ experience, and it just goes to show how much courage we actually have in the desire to overcome all obstacles. Well done indeed!
Hi Coffeecup,
You write:
The comfort I have found in others suffering the same anxieties has helped to put many things into perspective
I couldn’t agree more.
I feel the same reading about your day-to-day challenges! I really do appreciate connecting with other people, like you, who are struggling with panic. I almost deleted the verb “struggle” — it sounded too negative. But, it’s the truth, no? Panic attacks and agoraphobia are a struggle. We don’t have to admit defeat just because little things — like going to the dentist — are a struggle, right?
We are strong, really. Very strong.
Hi, I’m just reading through your blog and I’m sorry to hear of your experience with this insensitive dentist. It’s just occurred to me that the dental problem could be a withdrawal symptom. After discontinuing benzodiazepines I spent a lot of money at the dentist (the pain and sensitivity was awful), but they couldn’t find anything. It turned out that it was a benzo withdrawal symptom. It’s just a thought but may be worth considering.
Welcome, Hannah
You know, I think you could be right. So many things can be linked to benzodiazepine withdrawal. And, the pain did start last June, about two months after starting the water taper. Amazing!
So your pain went away? How long after you took your last benzo dose? Very interesting.
I just peeked at your blog. I am really looking forward to reading about another person’s experience with benzos! Thanks!
Hi, thanks for visiting my blog!
Just to answer your question, my teeth/gum pain and sensitivity stayed with me for more than a year on and off but it eventually went away. It is quite a common benzo withdrawal symptom. If you find a good dentist and have all the necessary treatment and it persists, then it may very well be withdrawal. It sounds as if it’s going away though so that’s really good news.
Is it okay for me to add your website to the links on mine?
Take good care, Hannah
Good morning, Hannah
(Well “Good Morning” out here in California!)
Good news! I’ll be sure to remember that my tooth sensitivity may be a benzo withdrawal symptom. The dentist did take xrays, so I would hope any cavity would show up. Very strange. But, like I mentioned, my tooth/gum sensitivity seems to be better. It’s still there with ice cream, but with cold drinks and “air,” it doesn’t hurt anymore.
Oh, and go ahead and link away! I haven’t been posting for two months, but I have decided to start again with a focus on dealing with agoraphobia and panic without benzodiazepines. Not an easy task! (But so worth it!)
Thank you so much for posting your experience and the forum with all of the comments! I have my Doctorate in Pharmacy and am the wife of a dentist, and he and I have made it our mission to help patients with dental anxiety. Periodically I like to research to make sure we are doing all we can do to help people who are afraid to get dental work done and before I read your blog, I just finished looking at the dentalfearcentral.org website to read through all of their content. It is a wonderful site, they have alot of information I am going to incorporate into our practice, and have validated alot of information we already know as we see people every day with all of these symptoms. I am trying to add Dr. Ryan Marcello’s name to their referral page as we have a very advanced technology office that allows for one appointment dentistry and we incorporate IV sedation and actually have the only dental anesthesiologist in South Carolina. There are alot of things that can be done to alleviate anxieties that do not involve benzodiazepam related drugs–and I would like to take this opportunity to tell anyone to stay away from dentists who only use oral sedation and who have been trained by the DOCS program in the US. Anyone with dental anxieties should stay away from a dentist who has been trained by this oral sedation program. I would also like to tell anyone, as the wife of a dentist and manager of two successful practices, that if you feel uncomfortable in an office or they do not keep up with the times to have the most advanced technologies to make you have the easiest dental experience, do not stay with that dentist–find another one!!I am so glad to hear you did not need extensive work. But hopefully if there are others who are reading this for information, I hope to let them know there are a few dentists in the US-not many-but a few who can, through techniques and technology, bring you one appointment dentistry and they can do it while you are awake or while you sleep. We are one of those offices. We are close to a major airport and have people who fly in for Dr. Marcello’s services because they appreciate what he goes above and beyond to do–and they return as they have learned to trust him so much that he is the only one whom they will allow to treat them. Dr. Marcello also has taken courses to offer ALL dental procedures so we don’t have to refer patients out, which increases anxieties when a patient has to goto different specialists (strangers). We routinely do a whole mouth reconstruction in a morning of time and can perform implants or cosmetic work quickly and can perform root canals and crowns in the same sitting–and very quickly with high quality– because of our equipment and Dr. Marcello’s training. For anyone who has had a negative experience or who needs a dentist who not only practices great dentistry but who can do it quickly and understands the needs of phobic patients, you can find Dr. Marcello at royalcrestdental.com in South Carolina or 1-888-227-1859. We welcome any patients who are nervous or who have had bad experiences in the past, or who have not been to the dentist in a very long time for whatever the reason may be, or who travel alot and do not have time to go to multiple dental appointments. Our staff are chosen on the basis that they are knowledgeable and gentle, and we have a four dentist practice and two locations because of our success.Thank you for giving me the opportunity to read your testimony and the stories of other people as it helps us learn, and we use people’s stories to make sure we are doing the best job we can for people to meet their needs! Amy Marcello
I saw your note on one of the dental newsgroups, you were looking for DentiSign.
The site has been relaunced – http://www.DentiSign.com.
Simpel hand signals to enable communication with your dentist. Please let me know what you think of it.
Helpful or not? All comments welcome.
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September 13, 2007 at 11:55 pm
PS: I forgot to mention that this visit to the dentist was the first I’ve ever made without benzos! As of yesterday, I’m four weeks benzo free. Wow.