A highly sensitive woman’s new perspective on mental illness

My Dental Phobia

Posted by: HSP Woman on: September 13, 2007

Being agoraphobic makes going to the dentist very difficult.

Unfortunately, I’ve had this sensitivity in my teeth for about three months now. I just dread going to the dentist and hearing terrible news like my roots are rotting and major dental surgery is the only option.

This morning, however, I gathered the courage to call and make a same-day appointment. But, first, let me give you a little history.

I have a dental phobia based on a couple of things: the primary problem being that I prefer to avoid places where escape might be difficult or embarrassing in the event of a panic attack.

Second, there is the side of me that has suffered from some traumatic events related to dentistry. Here, I will recall just one of them to make a point.

It was Halloween, 1998. I was in the hospital, in the O.R. specifically, minutes away from a major jaw surgery to correct a malocclusion. Since it was Halloween, there must have been some vampire teeth hanging around.

So there I am, lying unconscious on the operating table, my face painted with that yellowish antiseptic. On both sides of my exposed neck, hunching over me, were two nurses wearing fake vampire teeth. They were pretending to suck my blood.

How do I know this happened?

Two months later, I was at the surgeon’s office for a follow up. My three-inch thick file lay on the counter, bursting at the seams. Then, suddenly, a Polaroid falls to the floor.

I pick it up and nearly faint. It’s a photo of me — unconscious and exposed — with two vampire nurses, mouths open, just inches from biting my vulnerable neck.

All I could do was write a letter to the head nurse. She, in turn, apologized and said she’d offer her staff “sensitivity training.” Big deal, right?

I am still sick over what happened in that operating room.

Needless to say, I have good reason to be phobic of dentists. I read, too, that the mouth is a very sensitive, private area. It does feel violating to have someone forcing his/her way into the private space of one’s mouth.

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Yesterday, I searched and searched the Internet for support.

I finally came across this wonderful, compassion, intelligent site called Dental Fear Central.

Wow! Are there some great ideas there!

For example, here are two ideas that halt gagging in its tracks:

Breathe Right snore relief spray. Here’s a quote about this product from the web site:

I had a patient a few months ago who came in with a broken tooth which needed crowning, I cringed at the thought of doing this crown because of his severe gag reflex. He told me not to worry because he had a cure for his gagging problem. Astonished as to the cure, I inquired. He told me he had been using the snore relief spray from Breathe Right. We did the crown prep with no gag problems at all. I was amazed, so we have been using this on all patients with a gag reflex and I would say it works nearly 100% of the time. The worst patient I knew of was this beautiful 11 year old girl who would throw up almost every time she had her teeth cleaned. She is now able to have x-rays, cleanings and such done without incidence.

And, how about regular table salt to stop the gag reflex?

One pretty bomb proof tip for handling gaggers is the use of table salt on the tip of the tongue… Get the patient to dip his/her moist finger into a dampen dish of salt and get them to dab it onto the tip of the tongue. Works 95% of the time.

I’ve had the fear of vomiting in public for years. Sometimes when I am really nervous I start to dry heave and gag. Carrying a bit of salt around could be a useful trick in more places than the dentist’s office!

This web site also expands upon a number of the specific fears people have when visiting the dentist, including:

  • embarrassment
  • loss of control
  • pain
  • needle phobia
  • sights, sounds, smells
  • panicking or crying
  • the drill
  • choking
  • being awake
  • extensive treatment

The site also suggests writing a letter to the dentist about one’s needs and concerns. This is exactly what I did:

Dear Dr. Myers,

I have extreme anxiety when in the dentist’s office. This is probably a result of the hundreds of hours I have spent in dentists’ chairs. I have had two orthognathic surgeries and full sets of braces twice.

Also, I have Panic Disorder and Agoraphobia. I was diagnosed with this in 1989. I was taking medication for this, but I have recently stopped. I didn’t feel the benefits of the medication outweighed the number of side effects I was experiencing.

Concerns of Mine:

  1. I will panic while in your office, no doubt. So if you see me pale, shaking, sweating, etc, just realize it’s a panic attack and nothing more. Just ignore it.
  2. I may have to get up and walk around if the panic gets too unbearable. If this happens I will give you a hand signal (raise my pointer finger), or I will vocally tell you I need to take a small break.
  3. Stories and discussions that are dental or medical in nature tend to escalate my panic.
  4. The fewer people around while I am getting treatment the better. Maybe in the future I can schedule appointments at the very end of the day?
  5. My TMJ pain is still significant if my jaw is open too wide or too long. I need very frequent breaks.
  6. I’d rather not see the dental instruments or the x-ray films.
  7. I rather not be too reclined in the chair.
  8. I need frequent reassurance that you’re almost done or almost at a good stopping point.
  9. Definitely, no views of needles!
  10. I want to avoid gas or sedation at all costs. I’ve worked hard to taper of the medications and it’s not an option for me to take something to lessen the anxiety.
  11. Finally, if you can accommodate a nervous patient like myself, can I add your name and address to the DentalFearCentral.org web site? They collect names of compassionate dentists.

Thank you so much for your consideration.

I handed it to the receptionist as soon as I arrived this afternoon.

As soon as I was seated in the dentist chair, I added yet another need: No chain and bib around my neck! The assistant immediately obliged and unchained me. I just feel claustrophobic when there’s something around my neck. I had forgotten about this one!

Within minutes the dentist entered the room…

Dr. Myers sat down next to me and thanked me for the “Concerns and Needs” letter. I felt like he really had some compassion in him at this point.

He asks me if he can take a look inside my mouth.

He looks.

“No cavities!” he declares.

Don’t get me wrong. Part of me is ecstatic that I have no glaring problems. My confidence is mounting. Full-blown panic is nowhere to be seen…

“But, it really hurts while and after I eat cold things,” I said.

He tells me it’s probably my sinuses (for three months??). Uh, okay…

Then, Dr, Myers starts to say goodbye.

Wait! What about the x-rays? I wasn’t going home only to obsess about the x-rays I need anyway on my previously scheduled September 20th appointment.

The dentist is reluctant to do x-rays, saying he wants this visit to be a “positive visit.”

Okay, I have panic disorder, I am not 5 years old!

Now I am starting to get insistent.

“How do you know I don’t have any cavities if you don’t take x-rays?” I say, feeling like he must be joking with me.

Well, I got him there. He admitted I may have a cavity in between my teeth (duh!).

So, the next 20 minutes are taken up with a very, how do I say, a very “challenged” x-ray technician. She is rough and seems really inexperienced. She also insists that I must “relax my tongue.” My tongue is apparently too wide or something. What a strange thing to tell a patient.

After all the fussing about, the technician can’t find my x-rays on the computer. The dentist comes in and, together, they continue fussing about.

Meanwhile, I am just grateful it’s almost over!

Something interesting happens next. Dr. Myers sits down next to me and tells me my teeth will probably never decay. Great! I’m ready to go, and he keeps chatting about why I am phobic of the dentist.

Then I suddenly remember to ask him if he wants his name on the Dental Fear Central web site. Hey, it’s free advertising.

He says “No.” That’s it. No.

I’m taken back for a moment.

No?

“Why not?” I ask.

He then says, and I quote, “…because people like you are too much work.”

Now, I am speechless. As I recall this moment, I can still feel the effects of shock.

PEOPLE LIKE ME?

He continues, “People like you take too much time. Look how much I did with you today.”

HOW MUCH YOU DID WITH ME TODAY?

I quickly responded with “You looked into my mouth. That’s all you did. Literally.”

He replies, “Well, look how much TIME I spent on you.”

My jaw was on the floor. I was angry, shocked. He must have seen my rage.

“Don’t be offended. It’s just that I can’t charge for TIME, I only charge for fillings, root canal, procedures… Not for time. People like you take too much time.”

I insisted he charge me then. He refused.

I told him I was indeed very, very offended. I hadn’t asked for a minute of his time more than reading the letter I brought into his office.

PEOPLE LIKE ME…

I got up, gathered my purse, and left. Left for good.

Yeah, like now I would feel really comfortable actually requesting a break if I were panicking! Talk about added pressure!

I was proud of myself for vocalizing my disgust with him, but at the same time, I should have really given it to him.

Six hours later, it’d be really easy for me to keep crying the way I did as soon as I left the building. But, no way! Dr. Myers, DDS made a fatal mistake — trying to fake compassion.

Not only has he lost my regular, every 6 months’ appointments, but he also lost my husband’s business.

Shame on you, Dr. Myers.

41 Responses to "My Dental Phobia"

PS: I forgot to mention that this visit to the dentist was the first I’ve ever made without benzos! As of yesterday, I’m four weeks benzo free. Wow.

What a jerk! I’m really glad you got through it without benzos and without a panic attack, and yeah, anger is better than panic any day, but sheesh, “people like you”!
What a jerk. It’s not as if he isn’t capable of lying as he showed earlier in your visit, he could have just said he was too busy already and didn’t need more patients or some such. Sheesh.

oh my what a pr#$k.
You did an amazing job.
Congratulations on being benzo free a whole month.

It’s not as if he isn’t capable of lying as he showed earlier in your visit, he could have just said he was too busy already and didn’t need more patients or some such. Sheesh.

Hymes, I know! In fact, when he initially just said, “No” I thought it was because his practice was full!

Never, in a million years, did I expect him to say “No” because “People like [me] were too much work.”

It still burns me up! Thanks for the solidarity!

Well, Gianna, part of me thinks I did an amazing job, and part of me is embarrassed and humiliated (a much smaller part, but nevertheless, it’s there).

I guess I pride myself of being able to read people pretty well. So, when he came out with that trash talk at the end, I really was shocked! I felt betrayed in a strange sense.

Well, now I need to write him a letter as to why I am leaving his practice. Wish me luck!

Thanks, too, for the comment :smile: He really is a prick!

He was a jerk for saying it, but I’ll bet 95% of them think that way. It seems as though medicine is all about the profit potential.

Your experiences have been awful. So have mine, actually. Here’s something I learned that has almost done away with my dental phobia, besides the “trapped” feeling part. (I like your idea of letting the dentist know you might need to walk around.)

I learned that the numbing anesthetic has epinephrine in it. Apparently, it constricts the blood vessels, inhibiting bleeding. I found this out purely by accident, and the next time I went to the dentist, I asked for an alternative, as I do not tolerate speedy stuff at all. Now they give me the epi-free shot, and no more panic setting in immediately after the shot! I’m not afraid of needles, so I never could figure that one out…

Kudos to you for staying off those meds. I’m down to one dose of Xanax XR, but I’m having a heck of a time…

I am so very proud that you made the visit without meds, but that dentist should be reported, you can report him to the dental board. He should have never ever said that to you. He is so lucky it was you and not me there because when people say things like that to me I tend to freak and then get really angry. Thanks for that site tho, I might be able to go to the dentist now some time in the near future.

Holy!!!

I was so excited that you had found a dentist that seemed compassionate and understanding, but as I got to reading and figured out that his compassion was well… seemingly shallow at best… I felt offended for you. “People like you” indeed!!!

I loved your post though. I have had awful – no… make that horrific dentist experiences. While I seem to have worked through some of the anxiety associated with the dentist, like you, the agoraphobia and the panic has made returning to the dentist a real problem. The tips you have given, as well as the web site, will be a great asset to me. I am blessed with a dentist who recognized my dental fear right from day one and worked hard to get me past that. *chuckling* Funny enough though – what he did at that time was give me an Ativan to take before I sat in his chair. Back then, it was appropriate – now, it would not be.

To his credit – this dentist had me change from someone whose muscles you could have played upon like banjo strings to someone who actually fell asleep in his chair while he was doing a filling. And yeah… most of the time now he does not use a bib, that silly little chain, or that stupid rubber dam that is sure to get me panicking. My old dentist was an ass – had no clue about all that stuff.

Ramble ramble ramble… on and on I go. Your topic is timely. I have been putting off going to visit the dentist, now maybe I’ll buck up, be brave, and phone the guy before I pay a really big price and need to get some extensive dental work done.

A&A

Congratulations!! Congratulations!!

1st – for staying off benzos for a month
2nd – for being a so much nicer person than your (former) dentist

I was appalled (but unfortunately, not very surprised) by the behaviour of your dentist.

A dentist I once went to was jailed for doing more work than required on his patients (and thereby gaining extra income) and for fraudulent billing.

Our current family dentist is superb. This is how we chose him…

I went to 8 dentists in this area and told them all about the special needs of my autistic son, and asked them how they would deal with them. 4 dentists told me that they didn’t feel that they were able to accommodate his needs, 2 were too busy to help, one recommended that I sedate him before visits (!!!), and the last suggested that I bring him along at the end of his day to “get used to him and the environment” and told me that he might need several such visits before he (the dentist) would carry out any treatment. There was no charge for this extra attention.

Now all my family go to this dentist.

There are good dentists out there, but you have to look for them!

Personally, I wouldn’t waste my time writing to the despicable low-life Myers. My wife once used the following phrase when I got upset every time I recalled how I had been unjustly treated…

“Don’t let him live in your head rent-free”

…so now when I get mistreated I try to get that person right out of there as quickly as possible.

Hi..

I had an experience very similar to this.
July 2005 i had cracked a tooth in half and was refered to have it taken out under IV Sedation at a clinic who specialised in dental phobics.

As you can understand, as an (at the time) recovering agoraphobic/panic sufferer, the thought of having something injected into my hand that would make me feel drunk/drowsy was scary. I got in the chair and basically wept for 3 minutes (4 minutes at a push), then i let them just drug me! I was terrified.

After it was done, they sat me in recovery and *apparently* i was very noisey. I have NO recolection of this, i was still sedated.

When i left the clinic the told my mother that i would never be able to have any more treatment there again due to my irrational behaviour. They could not have me there as i was high risk(!?????) Whatever that meant!

Fast forward 8 months. I was in AGONY with 2 rotten wisdom teeth. I was once again refered to the clinic who i was banned from. I got there and i was seen. The dentist said “Sorry Sarah, we cannot treat you here.” “Okay” i said, “Tell me of a private clinic that’ll do it because i will pay to have it taken out”. ….. THEN…..(and this is the worst bit)….”Oh” The dentist said. “I CAN do that for you here!!!” What a flipping cheek! I ended up paying HIM £450 to have my wissies extracted.

I’ve been back since to the same clinic and not had to pay because i *behaved* myself on the 2 seperate occassions where i DID have to pay!

I was going to put in a complaint…but couldn’t be bothered!

Sarah.

I learned that the numbing anesthetic has epinephrine in it. Apparently, it constricts the blood vessels, inhibiting bleeding. I found this out purely by accident, and the next time I went to the dentist, I asked for an alternative, as I do not tolerate speedy stuff at all.

Hi Michelle,

This is a great point! I will totally add this to my list. I, too, do not handle anything even remotely “speedy.” What an excellent suggestion. Thanks for sharing!

Thanks for that site tho, I might be able to go to the dentist now some time in the near future.

Hi Thoughts,

Yeah, it’s a really helpful site for people with anxiety about going to the dentist. And, the moderators and other members were so kind and supportive. Check out the message boards over there. It’s really worth it. I would have postponed my visit to the dentist a lot longer had I not visited that site.

Here’s the URL again, for anyone who’s interested:

http://www.dentalfearcentral.org

I am trying to get more “assertive” when people offend me, but it takes time. In the past, I’d just suck it up and go home and be miserable over it.

No longer, but still I am not as “calm and assertive” as I’d like to be in those moments. I do speak up, but not enough. I guess I am still worried if I work myself up too much, I’ll panic for sure. Hmm… I need to think about this some more!

Hi A&A :smile:

Funny! I also forgot about that dental dam! Okay, now I need to add that to the list, too. (Such good suggestions here!!)

I’m glad you found a dentist that makes you feel comfortable! Good! But, still, falling asleep in the chair?! I can only dream!

Hi Robert,

You’re right. I decided not to write Dr. Myers, DDS a letter after all. Why waste my time? When I cancelled my scheduled cleaning appointment this morning, I did tell the receptionist (who I like) why I decided to take my business elsewhere. She was shocked that he had said such things to me. She was very apologetic and compassionate, too.

I’m glad we’re done with him!

I cannot believe your former dentist went to jail! Oh man! Amazing… But how lucky you are that you’ve found a nice dentist now. It’s good for your son, and for everyone in the family.

Does Marie go to the dentist easily? I really like her saying about not letting these jerks stay in our heads, rent-free.

Very funny!

I’ve been back since to the same clinic and not had to pay because i *behaved* myself on the 2 seperate occassions where i DID have to pay!

Dear Sarah,

My heart aches after reading your comment. I want to defend you against this horrible, criminal, insensitive, sleazy, unethical dentist!

Can’t you find another, ethical dentist? Why go back? I understand about not having the energy to make a formal complaint, but is there a real shortage of dentists where you live?

How DARE he declare you were BANNED because you couldn’t “behave”!! I am so angry. Three minutes of tears leads to being called “HIGH RISK”????

People like him should not be allowed to treat people this way. Really, I am so upset after hearing your story.

Maybe it’s too late to complain, but it’s never too late to stand up for yourself. Please, find a new dentist!

Wow, too many comments to read them all. Still, the dentist sounds quite horrible! Congratulations on making it through what seems like a really offensive experience at the doctor’s office!

Also, about the speed of visits and such, I don’t know what it’s like where you are, but in some of the doctor’s offices in NYC you wouldn’t believe how fast they move people in and out of there!

I actually once had a dentist who was really concerned about how much I was grinding my teeth, and it was during one of my depression stages, and he said that I shouldn’t be so stressed at my age and stuff, and I just broke down crying about how incredibly stressed and sad I was. And you know what? He was so gentle! He stopped to talk to me about how hard it was for him during med school and how it can be tough to be in a rigorous academic program, and that I’d make it through. He brought me tissues and he gave me free vitamins and some pills to help my joints and said to make sure to take my vitamins because it really would help some. I felt pretty embarrassed even so, to be needing this kind of care from the dentist.

Unfortunately, despite how awesome this dentist was, his receptionist was horrible and filled out the insurance form wrong and it was a big ordeal finally getting my insurance to pay him, and then in the end his office dropped my insurance company altogether, so I don’t see him anymore. Sigh.

What a jerk! I totally agree with you about “faking” compassion. If that was his attitude he should have been straight up with you at the beginning just like you were with him. I am so glad you left and don’t plan on returning. Having phobias of dentistry are SO common! How can you say “people like you” and not think that would offend someone. You should start a blog entitled dr.meyers.dds.sucks where you can promote his insensitivity and greediness!

P.S. I found your blog on Debaser’s its very cool. I will definitely be back, and I am adding you to my blogroll :)

Hi Flicka,

Always a pleasure!

I am glad you found a nice, kind, caring dentist — and even in the fast-paced NYC! Too bad about the insurance thing, though. Don’t be embarrassed if you need some extra attention! I would say it’s their job to take time, but I have learned recently, it’s not! Anyway, I still firmly believe it is a dentist or doctor’s innate duty to have a good bedside manner. I know I am fantasizing, but still, we should demand it or bring our business (and our bodies) elsewhere!

Welcome, Aimee :grin:

I know… “people like me…” I still get really angry when I remember it, and that was a week ago!

I am glad you came over from Debaser’s blog! I read his blog, too. I’m heading over to your blog soon!

Kudos on your courage to speak up to this rude, highly insensitive dentist!! Sheer lack of thought, consideration, and appropriateness never ceases to boggle the mind.

I think every woman, everywhere has experienced trivialization in the medical community and negation of our thoughts, feelings, concerns, and fears. It’s an attitude towards women in general, not just those with agoraphobia or panic disorder.

I experienced it repeatedly from MD’s when undergoing treatment for cancer, which greatly exacerbated the trauma of the cancer ordeal. As a woman who has had many physical health problems, I can avow that bedside manner, for the most part, is atrocious. I’ve had many horrible doctor experiences. One actually rolled his eyes when I asked him questions about my cancer and cancer treatment he thought were trivial or silly!! I seriously doubt he would ever react that way with a man.

Abundant blessings to you, MW

Great post! I too have dental phobia, so much so that I nibble food with my front teeth and live on Orajel because I don’t want to go to the dentist for my teeth sensitivity, which I’m sure is really a sadistic infection that will soon infiltrate my brain. I’m on borrowed time. And it sucks because I have awesome insurance.

I’m also an agoraphobe and a hypochondriac. It’s comforting to hear from like-minded people, I’ll have to add you to my blogroll…

Welcome, Mother Wintermoon :smile:

Thank you for stopping by and for commenting!

I think every woman, everywhere has experienced trivialization in the medical community and negation of our thoughts, feelings, concerns, and fears. It’s an attitude towards women in general, not just those with agoraphobia or panic disorder.

Yes, I agree :sad: I am so sorry about your experiences concerning the doctors treating your cancer. I am not surprised, unfortunately.

I look forward to reading your blog. It looks wonderful!

Welcome, Leila!

I checked your blog out, too, and it’s super! I am glad we found each other!

You should check out the Dental Fear Central site (the link is in my sidebar). They are so nice over there (on the message boards), plus there is a ton of information about getting to the dentist even if one is deathly afraid.

There’s hope for all of us! :grin: Really!

Hi HSP Woman, I’ve tagged you with my new “Feeling Blogger Awards”. You wil of couse do as you “feel” about this :) .

Oh, Hymes, you are so special!!

Thank you for your innovative support!

You deserve the “Feeling Blogger Award” and so many more for your mental health advocacy. Indeed, you are an inspiration. Thank you again for your dedication and friendship.

People like HIM should be made to stick it where the sun don’t shine!

Great blog; I just discovered it. If you don’t mind, I’m going to link to you on mine, PANIC! (http://panicanddepression.blogspot.com). Keep fighting the good fight!

Welcome Hawthornewingo :smile:

He isn’t very sensitive, is he?

I thought he might have called me to apologize, but, of course, he didn’t. Typical, really. If I unknowingly had done something to grossly offend someone — especially a patient or client — I would most definitely talk it over with him/her!

Thanks for stopping by and commenting. I am looking forward to checking out your blog!

You handled that so well…I’m impressed!!!
I have a slight case of agoraphobia…and a GINORMOUS case of anxiety/panic attacks…and even worse, I have extreme cases of rage! It took a lot of courage for you to write that letter, and even more for you to show up and hand them the letter. HOW DARE HE!!!! Then result for me would’ve have been a huge spazz session, and possibly some of my spit in his face! LOL, but that’s just me…CONRATS TO YOU FOR BEING SUCH A COURAGEOUS PERSON!!!

Welcome, Amber :smile:

Thank you for your vote of support! I am sorry you, too, are suffering from panic attacks. I can become pretty enraged, too. It’s just so frustrating having panic attacks and agoraphobia. Lots of people just don’t understand because, for them, going to the dentist is just unpleasant; it’s not a torture! But, there are people who get us. Lots of people out here in the blogosphere have panic attacks. It’s really comforting to be able to connect. Thanks for stopping by!

This dentist was so incredibly condescending and then insulting! He’s an idiot. Dentists know that MOST patients dread seeing them and dental conferences are filled with workshops on how to calm anxious patients and even how to use hypnosis, which can be very effective. This guy just flat-out LIED to you that you have nothing wrong and you’ll never have anything wrong. He missed ALL the workshops!

Welcome, Individual Voice!

I agree. Dr. Myers is incredibly insulting. He obviously doesn’t know that many people dread the dentist. Or, rather, he doesn’t care. He seems pretty comfortable in his little set up there. I just don’t see someone like him bending over backwards to be compassionate. Nor do I see him every volunteering to attend a hypnosis workshop! Too bad; that sounds really helpful!

Thanks for your comment :grin:

As an abuse, domestic violence, health crises and cancer survivor I live with PTSD.

I never connected my dental treatment “issues” to abuse until I saw an article on the dental fear site.
http://www.dentalfearcentral.org/sexual_abuse_dental_fear.html

Bad experiences with trivializing, derisive doctors felt re-abusive, bringing up many of the same feelings of powerlessness and negation.

I have never posted about any of the above on my blog, but you have inspired me to do so. Thank U.

Kind Mother Wintermoon,

I am moved by your self-discovery.
Thank you for sharing with me.
I send you a big hug.

You asked…

Does Marie go to the dentist easily?

….and as it happens I was just about to publish a post on this subject!

Btw, the short answer is “no”.

This is Robert, no? :smile:

OH MY GOSH! I just read your post about Marie’s “adventure” with her dentists! http://mywifehasagoraphobia.blogspot.com/2007/10/dental-treatment-agoraphobia-nhs.html

It’s on-the-edge-of-your-seat reading! Wow! I am so proud of what she’s done. And you, too. What an angel you are to her, I’m sure. Marie and I are both lucky we have such supportive spouses!

Nice to hear from you again!

Did you ever read Don’t panic by Reid Wilson? Best book on panic disorder in my opinion.

You know? I have read this, but I can’t find it now! I’ve searched everywhere. I think I’ll order it again. Thanks for refreshing my memory!

I didn’t realise until I was nearly finished reading this post, but I was deep breathing (automatically) while reading about your experience!

At least you know the truth about his attitude, & knowing the truth is good.

I would much rather be told the truth than lied to. I never want someone to lie to me. If that’s the way the dentist feels, you are better off knowing it.

Regarding tooth sensitivity: I avoided drinking & eating anything cold on the right side of my mouth for years before noticing that the sensitivity had gone away. The dentist couldn’t find a reason for it. I believe it may have been caused by a partially pinched nerve in the ‘dowagers hump’ area of my spine, just below the base of my neck, just to the right of my spine. I used to get terribly painful cluster headaches, & I put that down to the stress of particular events (like public performances by my child, eg) causing me to tighten/clench my muscles, which pinched the aforementioned nerve – I had symptoms like trigeminal neuralgia from this.

Welcome Missy!

I am so glad you stopped by here. I have been having a terrible “neck” migraine for the last two weeks. I haven’t been able to figure it out! Now, I believe it might be this “dowagers hump” thing, too. I still have tooth/facial/what-seems-like-sinus pain also. Do you have TMJ pain, too? Hmm… How did you alleviate the headaches? Did you have to somehow “fix” the nerve issue?

And, I also hate to be lied to. That’s a good way to view the whole dentist encounter. Better to know how insensitive he is now, before any work is done! Imagine what he would have done had I had a full-blown panic attack!

Thanks for the insight, Missy!

I’ve just found your blog and am really looking forward to reading it through. My pulse rate quickened with fury at that story and the disgraceful attitute of the dentist. In the UK getting a dental appointment is neigh impossible unless you can have the treatment done privately. I’d left a tooth to fall to pieces after losing the courage to have it fixed five years ago, and my mother stepped forward and made me an appointment and came with me for moral support together with her credit card. I couldn’t put up with the pain if it anymore, and sure enough I needed root canal treatment. As I suffer from panic this was the last thing I needed. The dentist was extremely nice, and confessed to having panic of his own as a boy and he really seemed to understand my problem. I was so frightened that I worried myself sick in the intervening weeks but knew that I had no choice but to battle through it. Sure enough it was torture to sit in the chair for an hour and a half at a time, knowing that there was no possibility of escape once the clips had been stuck in my mouth and everything was sterile. The nurses blundered with the x-rays, they took what seemed like an age to fetch equiptment and I was counting seconds to get me through it, and it was pretty much Hell. Anything seemed achievale after coping with that, and for a while my confidence was really on a high. However it was his compassionate attitude that gave me the confidence to return. He praised me for being so calm and said he had expected some anxious outburst (little did he konw how I was really feeling!). So much for that dentist entering into a caring profession! Congratulations for standing up to him, but regarding the photo! I’m outraged! Fun is fun where it is approipriate but everyone deserves dignity and not to be confronted with such a humiliating experience. If there is a complaints proceedure then it ought to be sought out and have them exposed. It’s this kind of attitude that needs to be seriously address. We ARE the customer after all!

Nice to meet you, Coffeecup! :smile:

I am always so inspired when I get the opportunity to meet another person who has the same tendency to panic and avoid things. It’s comforting to realize I am not alone.

I am very proud of you for finally getting your tooth fixed. Our support people can really be helpful by sometimes nudging us to do what we’d normally do if we hadn’t such overwhelming panicky feelings.

I can’t imagine me making it through an hour-and-a-half dentist session. Way to go! However, like you said yourself, sometimes the anticipatory anxiety leading up to a “dreaded event” can be so much worse than the actual event!

I have to agree also about how successfully doing something that’s dreaded can really be a confidence booster. I try to remind myself of this if I get too housebound. I remind myself how much better I feel, and how much more I can do, if I just get outside and try to push myself slightly out of my comfort zone.

I really appreciate your comment!

Lovely to meet you, and I’m so pleased to have found your blog. I have a lot of catching up to do! You’re quiet right with achievement, as after those dental appointments I felt as if there was nothing that was going to stop me. Of course it doesn’t keep up like that forever unfortunately, because I’m learning that though it is highly beneficial to push on and expand that there will follow a need for rest, just like any form of excercise. It’s got to be done in moderation I find, and trips to dentists are BIG events.

The comfort I have found in others suffering the same anxieties has helped to put many things into perspective. Even today walking alone on a park with my dogs, I was struggling, and remembered that this afternoon there was a young lady sitting in a packed out school hall to see her son at a Nativity Play, and I knew that I wasn’t the only one feeling that way at that time. It gave me strength.

Thank you so much for your kind words, but really the praise here is for you, and handling such a vile situation with a philosphical and proactive attitude. I know of people who avoid dental treatment completely and have none of the problems that ‘we’ experience, and it just goes to show how much courage we actually have in the desire to overcome all obstacles. Well done indeed!

Hi Coffeecup,

You write:

The comfort I have found in others suffering the same anxieties has helped to put many things into perspective

I couldn’t agree more.

I feel the same reading about your day-to-day challenges! I really do appreciate connecting with other people, like you, who are struggling with panic. I almost deleted the verb “struggle” — it sounded too negative. But, it’s the truth, no? Panic attacks and agoraphobia are a struggle. We don’t have to admit defeat just because little things — like going to the dentist — are a struggle, right?

We are strong, really. Very strong.

I thought I’d replied to this but I guess I didn’t.

I, too, fear the dentist. I fear I’ll kill or maim the dentist who hurts me and I will go to jail for a long time. And, of course, I fear incarceration more than the dentist him/herself.

The solution? I don’t go. I brush, floss, mouthwash, and whiten the best I can and even though I may have dentures before age forty, that’s acceptable to me.

If I ever have a problem I think I’ll go to Mexico, where I’m sure they can be bribed to put me under full anesthesia.

Nice to hear from you, Debased.

It sounds like you have wonderful dental hygiene! And, I have to agree, for me incarceration would be the worst hell of all, as well. Being trapped is what I live to avoid. Sounds pathetic, but it’s true.

Is your fear of hurting someone limited to dentists? Usually, my fears — the ones I obsess about again and again — eventually generalize. Have yours? It’s also my experience that I NEVER act on my worst fears.

Funny little thing panic is, no?

Hi, I’m just reading through your blog and I’m sorry to hear of your experience with this insensitive dentist. It’s just occurred to me that the dental problem could be a withdrawal symptom. After discontinuing benzodiazepines I spent a lot of money at the dentist (the pain and sensitivity was awful), but they couldn’t find anything. It turned out that it was a benzo withdrawal symptom. It’s just a thought but may be worth considering.

Welcome, Hannah

You know, I think you could be right. So many things can be linked to benzodiazepine withdrawal. And, the pain did start last June, about two months after starting the water taper. Amazing!

So your pain went away? How long after you took your last benzo dose? Very interesting.

I just peeked at your blog. I am really looking forward to reading about another person’s experience with benzos! Thanks!

If you have PAIN with cold items you need to find a quality dentist.
I went to two or three dentists with tooth pain on drinking (cold) liquids. None could find the cavity. They tried several gadgets and tapped all the teeth but they could not find the spot.

I returned to my childhood dentist and he found the problem in a minute. The cavity was on, or bellow the spot where the tooth meets the gum tissue. Visually it was difficult to see, but when the gumline was probed the slot/deep scratch on the tooth was obviously a cavity needing fixing. He fixed it . No more pain.

Welcome, Markps2

That’s really interesting. Geez — I didn’t know that. My pain is much less lately, but I still have some sensitivity in the area you mention (where tooth meets gum).

I am still looking around for another (more compassionate) dentist. But, I am overdue for a cleaning so maybe I can’t afford to be too picky. Actually, any compassion at all would work for me now.

I’m looking forward to checking out your blog in-depth. Thanks for stopping by!

Hi, thanks for visiting my blog!

Just to answer your question, my teeth/gum pain and sensitivity stayed with me for more than a year on and off but it eventually went away. It is quite a common benzo withdrawal symptom. If you find a good dentist and have all the necessary treatment and it persists, then it may very well be withdrawal. It sounds as if it’s going away though so that’s really good news.

Is it okay for me to add your website to the links on mine?

Take good care, Hannah

Good morning, Hannah :grin: (Well “Good Morning” out here in California!)

Good news! I’ll be sure to remember that my tooth sensitivity may be a benzo withdrawal symptom. The dentist did take xrays, so I would hope any cavity would show up. Very strange. But, like I mentioned, my tooth/gum sensitivity seems to be better. It’s still there with ice cream, but with cold drinks and “air,” it doesn’t hurt anymore.

Oh, and go ahead and link away! I haven’t been posting for two months, but I have decided to start again with a focus on dealing with agoraphobia and panic without benzodiazepines. Not an easy task! (But so worth it!)

Thank you so much for posting your experience and the forum with all of the comments! I have my Doctorate in Pharmacy and am the wife of a dentist, and he and I have made it our mission to help patients with dental anxiety. Periodically I like to research to make sure we are doing all we can do to help people who are afraid to get dental work done and before I read your blog, I just finished looking at the dentalfearcentral.org website to read through all of their content. It is a wonderful site, they have alot of information I am going to incorporate into our practice, and have validated alot of information we already know as we see people every day with all of these symptoms. I am trying to add Dr. Ryan Marcello’s name to their referral page as we have a very advanced technology office that allows for one appointment dentistry and we incorporate IV sedation and actually have the only dental anesthesiologist in South Carolina. There are alot of things that can be done to alleviate anxieties that do not involve benzodiazepam related drugs–and I would like to take this opportunity to tell anyone to stay away from dentists who only use oral sedation and who have been trained by the DOCS program in the US. Anyone with dental anxieties should stay away from a dentist who has been trained by this oral sedation program. I would also like to tell anyone, as the wife of a dentist and manager of two successful practices, that if you feel uncomfortable in an office or they do not keep up with the times to have the most advanced technologies to make you have the easiest dental experience, do not stay with that dentist–find another one!!I am so glad to hear you did not need extensive work. But hopefully if there are others who are reading this for information, I hope to let them know there are a few dentists in the US-not many-but a few who can, through techniques and technology, bring you one appointment dentistry and they can do it while you are awake or while you sleep. We are one of those offices. We are close to a major airport and have people who fly in for Dr. Marcello’s services because they appreciate what he goes above and beyond to do–and they return as they have learned to trust him so much that he is the only one whom they will allow to treat them. Dr. Marcello also has taken courses to offer ALL dental procedures so we don’t have to refer patients out, which increases anxieties when a patient has to goto different specialists (strangers). We routinely do a whole mouth reconstruction in a morning of time and can perform implants or cosmetic work quickly and can perform root canals and crowns in the same sitting–and very quickly with high quality– because of our equipment and Dr. Marcello’s training. For anyone who has had a negative experience or who needs a dentist who not only practices great dentistry but who can do it quickly and understands the needs of phobic patients, you can find Dr. Marcello at royalcrestdental.com in South Carolina or 1-888-227-1859. We welcome any patients who are nervous or who have had bad experiences in the past, or who have not been to the dentist in a very long time for whatever the reason may be, or who travel alot and do not have time to go to multiple dental appointments. Our staff are chosen on the basis that they are knowledgeable and gentle, and we have a four dentist practice and two locations because of our success.Thank you for giving me the opportunity to read your testimony and the stories of other people as it helps us learn, and we use people’s stories to make sure we are doing the best job we can for people to meet their needs! Amy Marcello

I saw your note on one of the dental newsgroups, you were looking for DentiSign.

The site has been relaunced – http://www.DentiSign.com.

Simpel hand signals to enable communication with your dentist. Please let me know what you think of it.

Helpful or not? All comments welcome.

http://www.DentiSign.com

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